Quote:I wouldn't hold up Beau as a paragon of stereotypical maleness, no. Although compared to people like Eric, that's probably good.
Are you saying Beau isn't male enough?
Ivette: DYKWIS?
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 Highwaygirl98 |
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Posts: 3228 (09/21/05 05:47:47) Head of Household |
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kellilea |
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Posts: 9 (09/21/05 08:23:32) |
At least Marcellas is now off the hook as the dumbest player in BB history.
Boooooooooo, Ivette, Boooooooooo. You are vile and awful, and if I were Tushie I would dump your crazy ass. Go away now. |
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stepchylde |
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Posts: 651 (09/21/05 09:43:00) Jedi Janey |
On housecalls today they had Ivette, Maggie, Janelle, and James as guests. Marcellas asked Ivette that since she has been out of the house, and knowing what she knows now, if she would have perhaps chosen diferent people for an alliance.
She replied that she didn't like hypocrits and that she would chose to be in an alliance with the other side. BWHAHA....trouble in Fiendship Land?? |
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Cami |
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Posts: 666 (09/21/05 10:20:53) Jedi Janey |
Ivette belonged to the hypocrites, though. She was one of them. There's a reason those particular people banded together, much as they might like to distance themselves now that they have another perspective.
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luvlee |
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Posts: 138 (09/21/05 11:06:27) Skippy |
Yeah, but I think she may have heard some of the things said about her by her beloved Cappy and the others that she clung to as her "friends" in the house. One thing about Ivette I can say is that she was never fake about her interactions with people. She was civil most times to people but she made no bones about making it known that she didn't like someone. She was very upfront with her feelings. I don't feel that she was a hypocrite, unless it's in the sense that she applied a level of game morality to others but wouldn't hold to it herself. She stuck to her friends and I think now she's found out that they were talking crap behind her back the whole time. I don't think anyone in that house could honestly come back and say they didn't know how Ivette felt about them. There may be shock at the level of vitriol that came out of her mouth and the racist comments but that's about all. I'm thinking she's feeling betrayed by the "friendship" right about now. The realization that the times spent ripping people up behind their backs were sometimes aimed at her must be very shocking for her. Deserved, but shocking all the same.
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stepchylde |
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Posts: 651 (09/21/05 11:12:16) Jedi Janey |
April/Jen starting IvetteGate.
Maggie/April making a deal for final 2. Jen/April/Maggie all trashing her behind her back. Yeah, I'm guessing Tush had a LOT to tell her Ivetta. |
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LurkerNan |
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Posts: 720 (09/21/05 11:18:01) Slut. |
I'm sure Tush told her all this immedaitely, with Ivette's mother standing beside her and interjecting frequently. Then I'm sure Ivette had a nice long crying and ranting session.
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Posts: 560 (09/21/05 11:47:57) Piedmont |
Oh, absolutely her issue is probably with April and Jennifer being willing to sell her out. Remember, after seeing the jury house conversations and the votes, the person who showed the most unwavering support and loyalty for her, aside from Beau, was Janelle. Not April, not Jennifer, not her beloved Crappy, not James, but Janelle.
I don't believe for a second she's regretting her Cappy love so much as she's having a visit from April's clue. Maggie will never be able to comprehend why people don't like her; neither will Jenny or Eric. Ivette and April will. I do genuinely believe that Ivette (as well as April and probably Beau) if separated from the groupthink, would probably be relatively likable. I think that April mistakenly placed the groupthink blame on Ivette rather than on Eric, Maggie, and Jennifer where it belonged. |
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Posts: 429 (09/21/05 12:08:08) Texaslut |
I did want to say that the few shots I saw of Tushie live last night, were nice. She really looked pretty! I cant believe how awful the pic that Ivette got for HOH was. I thought for a minute the live finale was gonna end on Vetta and Tushie giving each other a big kiss, but the show ended and went to a commercial.
I would definitely watch Ivette (dang, its hard to stop typing Evil!!) and Tushie on Amazing Race! I would totally root for them. |
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LurkerNan |
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Posts: 720 (09/21/05 12:21:54) Slut. |
Quote: You're right. I think April's clue is going to have a busy couple of days, flying all over the country to smack a few folks upside the head. |
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Posts: 298 (09/21/05 12:47:53) Hardly |
I soooo wish we could get a live feed of the wrap party!
And I agree, I think Ivette is a total victim of the mob mentality, April and Beau too. When they were away from the Sith brain, they seemed to geniunely have fun and loved hanging with the Jedi, but once they got back to the coven the fell back into Jedi-bashing. Tushie and Moms will straighten her ass out real quick, and yes, Tushie looked damned hot last night wearing all black with her hair up. |
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stepchylde |
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Posts: 651 (09/21/05 13:02:32) Jedi Janey |
No amount of 'mob mentality' or 'running with the pack' will make a truly goodhearted person act the way they did. They simply had a hateful side, and found that it was deemed okay to let it out amongst themselves.
The somewhat rare rant that we heard from Howie/Janey/Rach/James/etc is what I would consider 'normal' venting due to circumstances. The daily hour+ long bashfests that went on with the friendship is nothing more than hateful people being hatefyul together. I agree....April and Yellvette will probably understand why people didn't like it. Maggie and Jen never will. But no amount of understanding after the fact will take away the sobering reality that they were capable of such hidious behaviour in the first place. For that alone I don't like any of them as human beings, and never will. Course, that's just my opinion. Mileage may vary. |
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gforce |
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Posts: 1164 (09/21/05 14:38:05) Gimme Your DOR |
I totally agree with you, stepchylde. I do think that Ivette and Beau certainly have a nicer, more likeable side than the other Sith, but they are also very what I call "soft-headed", if you know what I mean. They are easily led. That being said, they still have freedom of choice and no one made them behave as hatefully as they did.
So no, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the position that Ivette is in now, but I DO sincerely hope that she takes it as a learning experience to guide her behaviour in the future. If she takes away nothing else from this experience but that, it will have been worth it for her. I don't think that Maggie, April or Jennifer will learn anything from what they find out except for thinking that the viewers really ARE pieces of sh*t. |
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deleme |
Hating Rachel | ||
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Posts: 56 (09/21/05 18:20:38) Julie Chen |
Besides the fact that Rachel was on the Jedi side, what was it that they all hated her for? I nevet understood that, of all the Jedi Rachel was the nicest to the Sith in the beginning. She even talked to Eric when others were avoiding him. So why did they hate Rachel, and come up with such stupid things to say to her, like Beau's dumb eviction speech, Ivette's comments Julie played, all the old hag crap?
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Posts: 182 (09/21/05 18:41:55) ItsOnica |
I don't think Ivette will ever get "The Clue". She is simply back with the people in her life that can influence her more now that Maggie's and Cappy's influence isn't an overwhelming presence. She will only change her mind about the "friendship" and their actions because Tushie and her Mom now will tell her how to think. Ivette can not think in the abstract. She is strickly a "You are FOR me or AGAINST me" person who only sees in black and white.
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Sardonic |
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Posts: 560 (09/21/05 20:01:36) Piedmont |
I do think, though, that Ivette at least recognizes she can be loud and hard-headed. She can understand that she has personality traits that might rub people (like, oh, I don't know, RACHEL) the wrong way. Maggie, I think, was more blindsided and devastated by the way she was received by the public because she genuinely thought she was playing nice and fair.
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Posts: 306 (09/21/05 20:29:47) Bambi |
Quote: You know I've been wondering if Ivette will ever explain this and I've been trying to make a guess as to what it was all about. The only thing I can come up with is that Ivette and Beau might have blamed her for trying to get April and Jen to vote her out and keep Sarah. Now I know that's insane because Rachel wasn't even in the room when April and Jen approached Howie and Janelle about it, but I do remember her name being talked about at one point for whose idea it was. And if Ivette talked to James about it - James would only know that Rachel told him to talk to Jen and April. To my knowledge, he never knew who originally came up with the idea. So I wonder if Beau's insane nomination speech and Ivette's "poor sport" crap was all about Ivettegate. If so, she has to feel extra stupid now since Rachel had nothing to do with it and it was treating Rachel like crap that cost her 1st place. |
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LurkerNan |
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Posts: 720 (09/22/05 10:02:18) Slut. |
Here is one of Ivette's interviews, and here's the best part:
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issycat |
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Posts: 53 (09/22/05 10:22:34) Julie Chen |
Ivette's comments on Rachel:
Quote: It's not ok for Rachel to be a "sore loser". But it's ok for Ivette to cry, carry on and act like a 2-year-old whenever her side lost. I'm sorry, Ivette may have gotten a bit of a clue but she is still a deluded, nasty horrible hypocrite. That's right, I said it Ivette, You are a hypocrite! Just like all the people you clung to in the game and now are distancing yourself from. Whew! I feel better now. |
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Cami |
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Posts: 666 (09/22/05 10:25:34) Jedi Janey |
Ivette loves the martyr role too much-- she'll play it for anybody. Now it's Maggie's turn, that's all. I don't think anything at all has changed in her.
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